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Battlestar Galactica: Razor – The Hybrid’s Prophesy

So I finally got around to watching the Batlestar Galactica: Razor – Extended Edition DVD. If I had known that there was going to be a HUGE addition to the Hybrid speech I would have watched it a long time ago! Here is the transcript with my comments. Spoilers ahoy! (Seriously, don’t read this if you haven’t watched Season 3 and Razor yet.)

At last they’ve come for me. I feel their lives, their destinies spilling out before me. The denial of the one true path, played out on a world not their own, will end soon enough.

Those bitches are coming to get me!

Soon there will be four, glorious in awakening. Struggling with the knowledge of their true selves. The pain of revelation bringing new clarity.

He’s talking about the four new cylons revealed at the end of Season 3 obviously.

And in the midst of confusion, he will find her, enemies brought together by impossible longing, enemies now joined as one. The way forward, at once unthinkable, yet inevitable.

I’m not sure who he’s talking about here. It might be Starbuck and Anders. If Starbuck is human and Anders is a Cylon, they should be enemies. But they’re in love, right? (Even though Starbuck belongs with Apollo!) And they made a point of embracing in the EW Last Supper pic. But he could also be talking about Starbuck and Leoben.

And the fifth still in shadow, will claw toward the light, hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering.

The obvious choice when you start talking about “redemption” is Gaius Baltar, but I thought it was already stated that he wasn’t going to be a Cylon. Who else needs redeeming? Laura Roslin is certainly going to be “suffering” with her cancer. Is she the one?

I can see them all. The seven now six self-described machines, machines who believe themselves without sin. But in time, it is sin that will consume them.

I’m sure these are the 7 Clylons we’ve known about for a while. “Now 6″ meaning the boxing of Xena Warrior Cylon. It seems like the hyrbid is not too pleased with these 7 Cylons! Frankly, neither am I!

They will know enmity, bitterness, the wrenching agony of the one splintering into the many and then they will join the promised land, gathered on the wings of an Angel. Not an end, but a beginning.

Is the “they” he is referring to the 7 original Cylons, or is he starting a new statement regarding the human race as “they”? And who is the Angel? I think it’s probably Laura Roslin, although I hope it’s Starbuck, but it’s probably not her because of this next damn statement.

Kara Thrace will lead the human race to its end. She is the herald of the apocalypse, the harbinger of death. They must not follow her. As my own existence comes to a close only to begin anew in ways uncertain. All this has happened before and will happen again.

That just scares the bejeezes out of me. Starbuck better not be evil! Knowingly evil or otherwise!

TELEVISION | Craig | January 22, 2008 3:49 pm

18 Comments

By Nick, January 22, 2008 @ 3:59 pm

I don’t think Starbuck will be evil (knowingly), but I think making Laura the “angel” would be much too easy. We’ve already seen the prophesy of the “dying leader.”

hmmm…must ponder. I’m upset I didn’t get this for Christmas. I’ll need to go out and get it this week.

Also, they’re supposed to unbox Xena this year…
By DavidR, January 22, 2008 @ 5:13 pm

And the fifth still in shadow, will claw toward the light, hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering.

Maybe it is Lee? After giving everything up, you think that Pops will be miffed at his little stud muffin? He is the one that is searching redemption and being away from his father could induce terrible suffering.

I’m not sold on this, but, I thought I would add my two centars (or whatever money was called in the old series)
By Andy McEntee, January 22, 2008 @ 9:20 pm

So, I don’t really have any idea what you are talking about here. I just wanted to say hi
By Ella, January 22, 2008 @ 11:45 pm

There has been so much rampant speculation, and anticipation that I hope it is a complete shock.

Ellen Tigh, returning as the final cylon.

I mean, she could use some redemption, right?
By Adric, January 23, 2008 @ 1:26 am

This post kind of gave me a geekgasm. Thanks for breaking it down- now i’m super, SUPER excited for the show to pick up again! GAH!
By NefariousCarrot, January 23, 2008 @ 4:04 am

Hi, Craig. This is my first post, but I started reading your blog during the gay bloggies, because you were hilarious (and intelligent *gasp*). Anyway, to me, it’s pretty clear that “in the midst of confusion, he will find her, enemies brought together by impossible longing” refers to how Lee “finds” Kara at the end of Season 3, when he flies out in a viper and meets her. If Starbuck isn’t the final Cylon, the show would score serious lame points, because it’d have to come up with some half-assed explanation for how she survived being crushed in a vortex. Like srsly.
By Angelmonster, January 23, 2008 @ 12:08 pm

Remember, in the EW Last Supper pic if you click on the cup in the picture it tells you out of the people sitting in the picture none of them are the final cylon.

I still want to know what the statement “All this has happened before and will happen again.” means because the other hybrid in the ship Baltar was in said that too.
By Rachel, January 23, 2008 @ 12:32 pm

Well now I have goosebumps.

Sometimes I think what he meant when he said “Kara Thrace will lead the human race to its end” is that maybe she’ll somehow lead people to the new era, the shape of things to come, the whole humans and Cylons living together in harmony and whatnot.

Or she could be the antichrist. I mean who knows.
By NefariousCarrot, January 23, 2008 @ 1:27 pm

Yeah, I agree Angelmonster. That phrase baffles me. However, I’m a bit skeptical of taking Ronald Moore’s word on things too seriously, because it could be a red herring to keep the suspense alive. People have jumped all over that interview. Nevertheless, it may be truthful. If so, then how lame will this season be!
By maestro, January 23, 2008 @ 1:29 pm

Rachel makes a great point that “the end” may not mean their distruction but the end of their journey. hmm…. also who knows if the hybrids are telling us the truth maybe this is another level of disception. Maybe Kara is the human salvation and the end for the hybrids so they don’t want her to succeed so they would want to sow the seeds of doubt. Lots to ponder.
By Pete, January 24, 2008 @ 1:20 pm

Kara Thrace will lead humanity to its end – but what does that mean? It could mean end as in goal as in Earth.

And ok she is the harbinger of death – but for who? The human race, or the cylons?
By Ken, January 27, 2008 @ 5:30 pm

“a fifth still in shadow” could well be Lee, since he is in the position of Judas in the Last Supper picture (Judas is in shadow in Leonardo’s version), but it could refer to someone else entirely. Brilliant!
By s, February 8, 2008 @ 6:35 pm

Hera is the “angel”; and the one splintering into many=cylon 7 collective voice fracturing before the ‘civil war’-ish struggle
By Dapple, February 22, 2008 @ 3:55 pm

This is my first post in general so I’m kinda new at this but I was wondering what your views were on the whole “Starbuck is a Cylon-human hybrid” thing that I’ve been hearing so much about.
By krystyn, April 11, 2008 @ 9:59 am

RE: If Starbuck isnâ€™t the final Cylon, the show would score serious lame points, because itâ€™d have to come up with some half-assed explanation for how she survived being crushed in a vortex. Like srsly.

Starbuck could have found a wormhole. Explains the time shift, the issues with her data files, her clock and the “newness” of her ship. I think Moore borrowed from the book/movie Contact here.

RE: â€œa fifth still in shadowâ€ could well be Lee, since he is in the position of Judas in the Last Supper picture

Actually, Lee is to the right of Judas. The missing figure is in Judas’ position.

RE: Maybe Kara is the human salvation and the end for the hybrids so they donâ€™t want her to succeed so they would want to sow the seeds of doubt.

I agree here. “She is the herald of the apocalypse, the harbinger of death. They must not follow her.” I believe the Hybrid is referring to Cyclons here. She is, afterall, THEIR prophet!

Trackbacks:
http://krystynheide.com/blog/2008/4/2/when-i-die-i-want-to-be-downloaded-into-a-six-model-please.html
http://krystynheide.com/blog/2008/4/3/its-dee.html
By Midnight, August 22, 2008 @ 8:45 pm

Alright.

Kendra Shaw as the final cylon. Mmmmm? Or Adar…that would be interesting, but right now, I’m a little more convinced it’s Kendra.

Where is this cup thing? I see it, but how on EARTH can you get that close to it?

The thought that “the end” might not be a bad thing has occurred to me too. And…its always a cylon (particularly a hybrid) who says that Kara is the harbinger of death. Death to the cylons?

There is simply no way that Kara is the final cylon. Katee has been told since day one that she is not a cylon. And if it is true, the show would score lame points and I would be very pissed off. Haha.

Hmmm…I am going back through the series and watching everything extremely carefully to figure out these things.
By Midnight, August 22, 2008 @ 9:02 pm

Also…the picture…guys, it’s backwards.

Judas hold the knife. Judas is on the left side. Chief holds the knife. He, is on the right side. Also….oh, just take a look at this link…

http://arthistory.about.com/cs/leonardo/a/last_supper.htm