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Puntabulous Guest Debate

Welcome to another edition of Puntabulous Guest Debates! Today I welcome Dave who runs the blog Life on the C-bus. It’s blog that’s dedicated to the advancement of the local music scene in Columbus, Ohio. Today we’ll tackle a topic that has plagued me since my first elementary school gym class.

TODAY’S TOPIC: TO WORK OUT, OR NOT TO WORK OUT? THAT IS THE QUESTION!

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Dave: I’m a gym rat. I’ll admit it. I head to the gym for an hour every day (sometimes twice if I’m feeling particularly manic). I push the iron, pull the cable, and crunch those abs. But word has it that a certain poor, frail writer of the Puntabulous feels that working out just isn’t where it’s at. But I beg to differ. And we’re not talking bodybuilding — men grunting with their ‘roid-ravaged, testicularly diminished bodies, popping veins, and metaphorically screaming for attention — we’re talking working out. Pumping iron. Getting fit. Looking good on the beach. Reason #1: Mental health. Not only do most studies point to the positive mental health benefits of exercising, but there’s another aspect that affects it even more that needs to be strongly considered: Having the strength to open that end-of-the-day Budweiser as effortlessly — and quickly — as possible.

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Craig: Oh no! You poor bastard! You’ve admitted your fatal flaw, and it was only your opening statement! How tragic! I mean, Budweiser?! Do we even need to continue this debate? Obviously Budweiser drinkers are lacking in the brainular area, so it’s clear that you make terrible choices in all aspects of your life. Your choice to work out is no different. You say that working out is good for your mental health, but what about your brain health? Instead of working out, don’t you think your time would be better spent reading a book? Taking a class? Watching a documentary? I know that’s the kind of stuff I like to do right before opening up a bottle of Yuengling. Who cares if I have to use a bottle opener?

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Dave: ::sigh:: Craig, Craig, Craig. Are you not aware that Dancing with the Stars isn’t a documentary, learning how to play Mario Party isn’t really a class, and that Star Wars novel you’re reading is only a book in the sense that it has a cover, some form of written text, and more than 20 pages? Yeah…sounds like you’re brain’s working overtime there. And the fact that all of these activities require you to be sitting still completely lacks any irony whatsoever. Leading the droll, untoned existence that is clearly your life would need a Yuengling or two. Or three. Or five. I’ll be sure to alert the Flat Butt Society of America that you’re considering membership. I, on the other hand, actually have the energy to get my well-shaped butt off the couch and do something, like taking a walk, coaching soccer, or hitting the mosh pit at a rock concert. You, however, would likely have a tough time surviving the mosh pit of a Neil Diamond show.

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Craig: Oh yes, let me center my life around surviving a mosh pit. By all means, moshing ability is the keystone of all that is good and wonderful in our lives. And what’s so good about having a nice butt? There is no evolutionary advantage to having junk in your trunk; it’s strictly aesthetic. It’s like someone approaching you in a bar and say: “Hey baby, nice appendix!” Those people are morons. And I don’t know about you, but I try and surround myself with people who aren’t superficial enough to care about the roundness of my booty. Me and my friends have better things to do than compare butt prints at the beach. Besides, when I go down (LOL!) in a plane crash, who do you think people are going to eat first? A skeleton draped delicately in pale meatless skin? Or the hunky slab of man beef who would go awesome in a honey-glazed Jack Daniels sauce. That’s what I thought. I’ll have mine medium-rare please.

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Dave: I’ll take the fact that you want to eat me as a compliment. But all innuendo aside, let’s get back to our argument. Do you realize that due to tighter FDA regulations and closer congressional scrutiny towards CIA and FBI operations, Inadvertent Atomic Human Structural Alterations affecting strength have decreased by a whopping 87% since 1969? And Mutagenic Unnatural Selection in the U.S. has decreased by 79% in the past decade alone? Not to state the obvious, but this means that no self-respecting modern superhero can maintain his muscular status without working out. There’s a reason why Doctor Octopus is a villain and not a superhero — he simply decided that working out was “too hard.” And without a cut body — or spontaneous muscular regeneration — he fell into hero ruin and found that the only way he could get page time was to become an evil nemesis. And that’s gotta be a blow to your self esteem. And even if you don’t have superpowers, if you have muscle tone you can can still be a superhero. Hell, Dick Grayson faked it for decades.

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Craig: I’m pretty sure half those words you just used aren’t real. Besides, you’re not the only person who can make up words and statistics. Did you know that the 1978 study of Human Lazification Gobledeegook proved that people who work out are unhappy and will die 17 times sooner than people who don’t work out? And if working meant getting bitten by a radioactive spider, having millions of dollars at your disposal, or coming from a different planet, by all means I would have started working out years ago! But in the real world, working out requires a lot of just that: work. It’s not fun. People who say that working out is fun are either kidding themselves or haven’t lived their life in my shoes; the shoes of a man who can work out all he wants and still be stuck in this lanky body. People who like working out only like it because genetics gave them a head start. There, I said it. The secret is out! People who like working out are faking it. Their only job is to maintain the body that genetics gave them; a much easier job than building muscle from scratch.

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Dave: You want to talk lanky? How about 5′11″ and 127 pounds? That was me before working out. I had friends who had lap dogs that weighed more than me. Talk about starting from scratch. (And the Human Lazification Gobledeegook study was published in 1979, not ‘78 — it would help your case more if you’d get your made-up facts straight.) And it’s truly amazing — what with all your “brainular activity” — that you actually put together the idea that working out is indeed actually work. And I wholeheartedly agree with you. But work is a good thing! I built a 25-foot deck on our house — didn’t know how to do it, just got a bunch of books out of the library and got started. It was a hell of a lot of work. But, damn was it cool to see the finished product and that I did it myself. How rewarding is that? Working out is the same way. And what’s the alternative? Sloth. Yeah. You wanna turn into that ugly thing? Be featured on Animal Planet’s “Earth’s Laziest Mammals LIVE” now playing at 1pm, 3pm, and 5pm at a Paramount Park near you? Just remember to get manicured before trying to get into a club. That is, if you can find the energy to peel yourself off that couch.

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Craig: Wow that’s great. You built a deck. Can we get back to our debate about working out please? Because building a deck is great and all, and I would love to build a deck someday, but you know what I don’t want to do someday? Build a deck, then go work out. Because the way I see it, life is too much working out as it is. Run around like a lunatic getting ready for work in the morning. Burned 407 calories! Sweat like a maniac as your drive to the train station, hoping not to miss your train. Burned 549 calories! Run around your office building like a crazy person begging people to do their work so you can do your work. Burned 625 calories! Doing all that bending to kiss your boss’s ass. Burned 75,914 calories! I’d have to eat a whole Thanksgiving dinner, and a few baby Native Americans just to gain back all those calories I burned off! The thought of going to the gym and burning off even more calories seems unnecessary, unhealthy, and ungodly!

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Dave: You burned 75,914 calories kissing your boss’s ass? I think that’s what’s ungodly. If you’d work out, get all buff, then he’d be scrambling to get to your ass. And I’m sure that would burn far less calories. Not to mention saving your dignity. And the cost of a therapist. Okay, time to haul out the big guns. Let’s start by quoting David Stensel, author and senior lecturer at the School of Sport and Exercise at the UK’s Loughborough University: “The health benefits from minor fitness improvements are staggering.” Staggering. Not simply “notable” or “important,” but staggering. And a 17-year study of 30,000 men recently published in the International Journal of Cancer (the disease, not the astrological sign) showed that exercising just once a week lowered the risk of developing advanced prostate cancer by 36%. And exercising more lowered the risk even further. I don’t know about you, but I like my prostate. We go to movies together. We hang out all the time. It would be sad to be apart.

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Craig: Well I’m glad you and your prostate are such good friends. Do you guys hold hands too? Be sure to wash them afterwards. I on the other hand like to have real people friends. You know, those people who are people and not compound tubuloalveolar exocrine glands? But you probably don’t have real friends because you’re either at the gym, or talking about going to the gym. As a man who is vehemently against working out, I’ve noticed that twinkle in people’s eyes when you ask them what their plans are for the evening or weekend and they say they’re going to the gym. It’s a twinkle that says: “I’m going to work out because I’m better than you. What are you going to do? Go to the bar with friends? Watch TV? Go to the park with family? Ugh, how disgusting of you. Don’t you know about your blah-bitty-blah prostate?” That twinkle isn’t a good twinkle. It turns people off and makes you look conceited. That’s why no one likes you. But hey, at least you have your prostate, right?

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Dave: That hurts, Craig. That really hurts. That “twinkle,” as you call it, isn’t conceit, it’s a tear in my eye as I think of your life being cut short due to your lack of concern for personal well-being. You’re a friend and the thought of a Craigless world would be too much to bear. Hold on, excuse me for a second ::sniff-sniff:: ::achooo!:: Oh, wait, my mistake, those teary eyes are just a cold. But one that I’ll get over in a day or so due to exercise purging my system much quicker than your’s can. (And prostates don’t have hands, by the way. Is that another example of your “brainular activity”? Just asking, because, y’know, I’m sure it’s really helping your argument.) But let’s get to my final point to this debate and one that you just might not be able to surmount: Does this look like a 40-year-old body to you?

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Craig: Yes, yes, we’re all very impressed. Bravo. I’m not questioning the outcome, I’m questioning the means. Is the amount of time and energy put into working out worth it? Okay, so let’s say working out does increase your life expectancy. What happens if you get hit by a car and die? (Knock on wood!) In that split second before you start sprinting down the dark tunnel with the light at the end of it, slapping the hands of all your dead relatives along the way, as if you just got picked to be a contestant on The Price is Right, aren’t you going to think to yourself: “I wish I didn’t spend so much time at the gym!”? There are literally millions of better things to do with your time than working out. And look at your first statement: “I’m a gym rat.” Don’t you think if working out was good, you would have said something like: “I’m a gym stallion”? I think rat sums it up perfectly.

So who do you guys think won? Try not to let Dave’s abs affect your judgment!

Be sure to head over to Dave’s blog: Life on the C-bus!

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39 Responses to “Puntabulous Guest Debate”

  1. mjohnson says:

    Craig I like your stripy jumper as it is the same as one of mine, but Dave dressed up as a super hero and painted his whole body perfectly, that must have taken a really steady hand - healthy body steady hand - just goes what you can achieve with hard work - Dave wins for me.

  2. srah says:

    I hate to support working out, but I think Dave had the stronger argument. Sorry!

  3. Avitable says:

    While the superhero photo was excellent, Dave definitely still looks 40. And I prefer younger girls. Neither of you are women, so I have to go with Craig!

  4. chris says:

    Nice effort Craig, but Dave all the way…did you seeeee those abs?!

  5. Nicky says:

    Showing semi-n00dz is totally cheating.
    But I’m going with Craig on this one anyway, thanks to his final thought. Very true.

  6. The FAF says:

    Sorry, Craig. Young guys like you can get away with being cute with little effort. When you hit 30, you have to start putting some work into it. Sigh. (Plus, I have to support my Ohio boy.)

    Team Dave!

  7. Julie Pippert says:

    Don’t be distracted by wha….?

    I vote for Dave. Sorry Craig, but his final question was very compelling. And I’m partial to people who are 40. Ish.

  8. Brett says:

    I HATE HATE HATE working out. So Craig wins.

    But with 30 a little over three years away I better take it up sometime.

  9. David says:

    Dave pretty…

    I’m sorry, were you talking, Craig?

    Gym rats, er, stallions unite! I vote for Dave. Plus he has a totally cool first name.

  10. Rob says:

    While I wish I was like Dave I am actually like Craig when it comes to the gym debate…I must call this a draw…I will think about this in much more depth when I am on my 5th beer tonight…

  11. Polt says:

    Despite the fact I HATE working out, I’ve got to go with dave on this one. i mean, those ABS….good Lord. I didn’t actually read the arguements you guys wrote, I mean I wanted to, but then I flipped through the photos and saw those ABS….arguement over.

    Sorry Craiggers…..I wanted you to win, but well, those ABS!!!

    HUGS…

  12. Craig says:

    Polt- That’s exactly what I said NOT to do! ARG!

  13. FDot says:

    My vote goes to Craig. The thought of working out makes me want to dive into a pool filled with Reeses Peanut Butter Cups.

  14. Jere says:

    Oh, I’m torn. I hate working out, but I enjoy getting laid — something that hasn’t happened as much since I fell off my routine in June of last year and put 30 lbs (of fat) on. Craig definitely has a point about genetics, but Dave is a superhero. Oh… fine, my vote goes to superhero Dave this time, but only because I someday hope to have sex again.

  15. BeRightBack says:

    Craig, all the way. Skinny bitches rule, as does your obsession with photographing your prone, butt-skyward body on your Big Boy bed.

  16. Ξ_Heather says:

    I have to go with Dave based on the superhero picture. Unless supporting his argument means that *I* actually have to work out — in that case, I’m totally voting for Craig.

  17. Dave S. says:

    Craig: Calling myself a gym stallion would be even more off-putting than that fictitious “twinkle” you spoke of. :-) So, yeah, rat’s pretty accurate. :-)

    Once I win the debate and get the multi-million dollar modeling contract (dripping sarcasm), I’ll buy you that gym membership that I *know* you want. :-) All you prospecting agents can reach me at david@lifeonthecbus.com — but only if you want a 40ish old guy that’s got a face that looks like Iggy Pop. :-/ (and that’s not a good thing…)

    Oh, and that superhero shot is pure Photoshop, so, no, I didn’t really dress up in a costume and a cape. :-P

    (that golf-clap pic is priceless, though)

  18. Craig says:

    Okay, so I’ll admit I’m very impressed with Dave’s Superhero picture. I couldn’t tell if it was really painted on or photoshopped. George Lucas could learn a thing or two from you.

  19. Dave S. says:

    Yeah, removing nipples is a lot easier in Photoshop than in real life.

    Or so I’ve heard.

  20. Alice says:

    what tipped the scale for me was how dave corrected your fake facts. that takes chutzpah. also i love muscle-y man arms, so i prefer my mens work out. sorry craig!

  21. Nick says:

    Ummm….Love you, Craig

    But Dave is right :-) And seeing as I just counted that I went to the gym and/or biked 23 out of 31 days in March. I’m firmly on his side. Though I have to say I despise how skinny he is…if I stopped eating for three months, I’d still weigh more than him.

  22. Paul says:

    Yea, I kinda agree with Dave, it is fun when you have the time. However, you win because I have that sweater :)

  23. Craig says:

    I work out….hate gym rats…but when I look at the pics….and read the arguments…i think to myself “if I WERE gay, which i am not, but if I WERE, which one of you would I want to take a shower with”?

    Sorry Craig….Dave’s pics speak for themself.

    (Once again…I’m NOT gay, not that there is anything wrong with that.)

  24. Craig says:

    Craig #2 - Why would you shower with Dave? He’s straight. He wouldn’t scrub your back the way I would.

  25. Derek says:

    adorable sloth > self-loving body picks.

    You win in my book Craig.

  26. Maggie says:

    I adore you Craig. But I have to confess that I like going to the gym…sorry!

  27. john says:

    Dave’s got this one. But not too shabby all around Craig. I’m not a fan of the gym or working out, the the in theory, he is right.

  28. Dp says:

    I DESPISE working out, but I think Dave wins… not ONLY because his milkshake (ie. abs) bring all the boys to the yard (girls too!)…

    but rather because his argument trumps your final point. In many people’s cases, they like working out, so it IS fulfilling when they’re flying toward the pearly gates ala The Price Is Right…

  29. Nate says:

    Craig, you totally get my vote here, because I hate working out. But even if I didn’t, I would have to give you the edge for this gem:

    Wow that’s great. You built a deck. Can we get back to our debate about working out please? Because building a deck is great and all, and I would love to build a deck someday, but you know what I don’t want to do someday? Build a deck, then go work out.

    Lanky, non-athletic/exercising people unite!

  30. john. says:

    Why would you debate fitness with a straight guy? I mean, seriously, Craig…what’s the point?

    And why do you keep debating straight people? When are you going to put that rapier, sarcastic wit to work on some snarky queen?

    Don’t dream it…be it.

  31. Craig says:

    John. - What about my Wine vs Beer debate with Jon from GayCondo? Does that count?

  32. kimberly.salisbury says:

    Sorry, Craig but I think Dave beat the pants off ya! He’s not just working out for the vanity aspect, he’s working out to live a healthier, fuller life for himself and his family! :)

    BTW- you could have been taken much more seriously had you not used COMIC SANS on all of your captions! EEEEEW! I know you’ve got better fonts on your machine than that…

  33. john. says:

    Craig..you’re right! More of that!

    Remember, Sarcastic Debating is an event in the Gay Olympics…it’s too easy with your straight pals….except for Bossy…she’s kind of an honorary gay just for her sarcasm.

  34. amy says:

    I think you’re great Craig.

    But dear god. Holy freak. Ah, did ya see that last picture? Dave wins.

    Off to take a cold shower or ask hubs to come home early.

    Whew.

  35. Stephanie says:

    Dave wins this one for sure, can’t argue with that bod!

    I’m a relatively recent convert to the workout mentality, tho I admit it’s partly so I can scarf down more junkfood later!

    And now that my husband is working out, he actually has *much* more energy…. ;)

  36. esther says:

    i like your hair better than dave’s. you win.

  37. Dave B says:

    Guys, I was *ahem*am*ahem* very much like you, Craig, with all the brainy stuff and the ‘pah, why do they do it?’ attitude. But I can vouch for the boost in mood and self-esteem when I did work out (circuit training). Now that I’ve stopped I’ve slipped back into bad habits and even worse depressions. I want to get back into the work-out spirit, but not go to Dave’s extremes, just strike a healthy balance.

    The argument is whether we should work out at all and Dave wins my vote.

  38. hello haha narf says:

    sorry i am so late to the party…travel for work has thrown me behind on my blog reading.

    i just had to comment that craig totally wins this one. terrific arguments. and the fact that dave had to photoshop that one superhero shot as much as he did…how am i to believe he didn’t photoshop the other pictures???

    craig, you made fabulous points. especially the yuengling trumping bud. well done!

  39. Ryan says:

    Craig wins. If people want to protect their prostate, they should just have more orgasms, which also protect against cancer. They are also a lot more fun than working out.

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