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john said in May 15th, 2008 at 7:42 am

Babylon 5 was AWESOME! The first season is a little tough by some reports, but please, please watch at least the second season. It is worth it. I can’t wait until you start that series.

TwoPi said in May 15th, 2008 at 8:06 am

Contrary to popular belief, there wasn’t a single episode where 3 main characters and 1 extra went on a mission, and the extra got killed. Not once in the entire season! Take that nay-sayers!

For that, you’d have to go back to the original series, where it happens in about 25% of the episodes.

But then again, you’d also have to watch William Shatner, and that’s a horror I’d wish on no one.

Jon said in May 15th, 2008 at 8:09 am

You can never have too much Wesley Crusher. Was I the only one who had a boyhood crush on his character?

David said in May 15th, 2008 at 8:38 am

While the aliens are much more varied on Babylon 5, I found the Star Trek writing to be superior. I will say, that first captain on B5 was a total hottie.

polt said in May 15th, 2008 at 8:57 am

Jon, I didn’t have a boyhood crush on Wesley, as I was in college at the time, but yeah, I had a crush. Still, he was kinda irritating.

Craig, the first season really isn’t all that great, but the second season is really the worst, so be ready for it. The series didn’t hit it’s stride until the 3rd season.

BUt I remember watching the 1st season as it aired, and it was the coolest damn thing on TV. It’s only in retrospect, comparing it to later season, that one realizes how bad it really was.

All your points, though, are accurate. Enjoy it, and be aware, you have a LOT more great shows in later seasons to look forward to!

HUGS…

Adam said in May 15th, 2008 at 9:03 am

1. I agree that there was way too much Wesley Crusher saving the day.

2. Another weakness early on is the role ship’s counselor. Although she is a great piece of eye candy, she sits at the left hand of the captain on the bridge but she also keeps office hours so that Crewman Smith can discuss his marital problems. I think it gets better as the series gets into its later years but I think the first few years are a little awkward.

Craig said in May 15th, 2008 at 9:10 am

Adam: I totally agree about Troi. Why would the ship’s counselor have such a prime seat while Data, the 3rd in command of the entire ship is up front doing all the work? She should really only be brought up to the bridge when making contact with other civilizations. And what’s with her weird accent? It fades away as the series goes on, right? Kinda like Storm’s African accent in the X-Men movies.

Adam said in May 15th, 2008 at 9:34 am

Craig: You said, “She should really only be brought up to the bridge when making contact with other civilizations.” But there is an episode in one of the later seasons where Troi loses her psychic abilities and Picard admits that there is not a requirement for the ship’s counselor to be psychic. So there is really no reason at all for the ship’s councilor to be on the bridge at all. She really needs to be on the holodeck helping LT Barclay work through some of his issues and let the Star Fleet Line Officers handle the crisis of the day.

Craig said in May 15th, 2008 at 10:00 am

Ah, Barclay. The only member of Starfleet to ever use a Holodeck properly.

Philip said in May 15th, 2008 at 10:58 am

I believe the purpose of having Troi on the bridge was that she was originally supposed to be a brainiac. They ended up with data and her role shifted to that of “eye-candy/sex object”. Just take a look at how her outfits change over the course of the first few seasons.

Philip said in May 15th, 2008 at 10:59 am

oops…realized I forgot to capitalize Data. my bad. i’ll say 10 hail Captain Picards for that…or something.

Mark said in May 15th, 2008 at 11:13 am

Counselor Troi was on the Bridge because she could sense things the ships sensors couldn’t, like the emotions and intentions of unknown aliens. If I were Capt. Picard I’d have her ass next to me all of the time.

And I love Patrick Stewart on Family Guy, Seth Macfarland is a big fan of TNG.

Nicky said in May 15th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

I never watched TNG. I did watch Voyager for a while and loved it…

Kári said in May 15th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

Season one has a quirky sort of retro feeling to it that I like, but as someone said up there, season two is very bad at times, it really only has about three or four episodes you could watch more than once. However, TNG from the third one and onwards, all the way to the end is pure goldpressed latinum. You can look forward to that.

ExAstrisScientia said in May 15th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

ok, guys time for me to whip out my massive geekiness!

1. The Enterprise was a model, it recently sold for $576,000.00 at auction.
2. The opening was a throw back to TOS.
3. The stand alone episodes are necessary when shows like this have large budgets they make these cheaply so they can put more into the heavy action and FX episodes
4. While no redshirt dies on an away mission (for TNG division colors they would be goldshirts) Ass. Cheif Engineer Singh is killed on board the Enterprise (”Lonely Among Us”). His uniform color: Gold
5. YES! In his online reviews of the TNG episodes, Wil Wheaton states that “The Battle is the episode in which Wesley went from, in Wheaton’s own words, “mildly annoying to vehemently-hated character,” talking about how having Wesley figure out the problem and the solution before the senior staff could was “perhaps the worst way to help the audience accept that this kid (Wesley) is going to be part of the main crew.” Wheaton also remarked that the scene in sickbay where Wesley tells Crusher and Troi that he “glanced” at the scans while Dr. Crusher was researching them and, quote: “…in that brief moment, magically divined exactly what the rest of the professionally-trained crew – including the hypersmart robot – hadn’t noticed: the patterns in Picard’s scan are identical to the low-intensity transmissions picked up from the Ferengi ship. Wesley cements his relationship with Trekkies by muttering, “You’re welcome, ladies… heh. Adults.” after they leave the room. Oh, that’s pure genius writing there, guys; that’s not going to alienate a single fan. Bravo.”
6. “I am fully functional programmed in multiple techniques” now I wish this line could get me some action.
7. see #6
8. Don’t get used to the “skant-style” uniform by the second season it is only seen with pants underneath (makes me wonder if those crewmembers forgot their pants that day)and after that only in the flash back scenes in the series finale.
9. Gene Roddenberry was responsible for the played down weapons after his death phaser rifles make more of an appearance.
10. Mark says it all, Patrick Stewart on Family Guy.

Babylon 5 was a great show, but you can’t skip the first season, whe whole series was written as one long story. If you skip the first season you will wonder what the fuck is going on in the last season.

ok, I will now return to my poor dateless little life.

I’m very interested in your take on the Vorlons.

Craig said in May 15th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

I’m not looking forward to the Dr. Pulaski season.

ExAstrisScientia: I remember that Wesley scene. It was the worst ever.

Kári said in May 15th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

I actually thought Dr. Pulaski was the best thing about season 2. I hate and have always hated Beverly Crusher more than any other Star Trek character, even her son.

Derek said in May 15th, 2008 at 9:01 pm

I’m currently on season four of B5. All I’m going to say is that you have to give it time to grow on you. Some of the episodes early on are downright awful, but it gets better I promise.

Greg said in May 16th, 2008 at 2:56 am

One of my professors told me that she really enjoyed Babylon 5 and she suggested I watch it especially since I like Star Trek. She said it started out really episodic (task/monster-of-the-day) then turned into one big storyline. She also said that the show got canceled (or was close to it) so one of the seasons ends with what could have been the whole series wrap up only to continue into the last season after the show was renewed.
My professors are nerds.

mp said in May 16th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

One of my all time favorite series..EVAH!
Holodeck.. Data..Deanna ( I had such a girl crush on her)…
There were so many awesome abilities..

I liked Wesley..I had a crush on him, kind of a cougary crush cause I was in my 20’s… but hey

Brian F. said in May 16th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

I’m much more a DS9 person. I feel both that and TNG found their stride in their third seasons and were amazing from that point on. That said, I just rewatched the first season of DS9 and it wasn’t nearly as bad as I remember it on its first time out.

TNG took its first two seasons to find its legs. And I agree with earlier comments that the first season of B5 is spotty (I am NOT a Sinclair fan) but I think B5 outshines most of Star Trek just for its adherence to a story arc.

ExAstrisScientia said in May 16th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

Just a note on TNG season 2:

Season 2 was affected by a writer’s strike, much like the one that just ended, many of the scrpits for season 2 were reworked scripts written for Star Trek: Phase II a series planned for the mid 70’s set on the original Enterprise with a few new characters (Spock would not return). These scripts were not written for TNG and it’s shows in the final product.

Bart said in May 18th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

Wow, I haven’t thought of TNG for a long time!

I remember thinking Wesley was cute, but being annoyed by him at the same time. I also remember how Riker put on some weight at one point, so that he always seemed to be pulling his uniform down over his belly, lol!

I liked TNG. And, I always liked Voyager. DS9 was okay. Never could get into the Enterprise.

Tony P said in June 3rd, 2008 at 2:28 pm

If you like ST:TNG everything is here, Seasons 1 through 7.

http://www.surfthechannel.com/tv/Star_Trek__The_Next_Generation_%5BTNG%5D/

You’re welcome. Right now I’m watching S01E11-Haven

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