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I am this close to giving up on Fringe. As I discussed this weekend with Michelle, a major problem is that they’re trying to explain fake science with more fake science. In X-Files, you had these outlandish mysteries that you were trying to solve with science that was somewhat based in reality. In Fringe however, you’re solving outlandish mysteries with make-believe, and it’s so blatantly make believe that there’s nothing interesting about it. If I hear someone say something like “There are things happening in this world that we can’t explain.” or “You must change your expectations for what is possible.” and say it as if it’s the most poetic thing they’ve ever said, I’m going to shoot myself in the face. And while people think that Dr. Bishop is the best thing about this show, he continues to drive me up the wall. “Oh look! He loves root beer floats! That’s so wacky!” Grumble. Grumble. Grumble.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
I gave up halfway through the second episode. Once I realized there would be no more half-naked Mark Valley, it just wasn’t worth the time anymore.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
At first I was pretty annoyed with the pseudo-science schlock. But now I have a feeling that they’re actually going somewhere with all of this and the final explanation is going to (hopefully) explain everything. Also, I actually felt betrayed after Walter attacked poor Astrid, which means that the characters are growing on me. After tonight I’m sticking with it!
September 30th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Well, I’m kinda glad I didn’t watch it at all then. I’m glad to see it wasnt an instance, like with Sex And The City and Lost where I never watched a show and people loved it and then I felt left out and unpopular. Thankfully, that’s not the case here!
HUGS…
September 30th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
From what little I saw, it’s problem was that it blew up all the rules rather than changing them. Audiences need to know what is possible and what is not.
You’d do better to watch Torchwood. It follows its rules and has cute guys kiss.
September 30th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
Do what I do in cases like this… avoid brand new shows until the third season begins. That way you have a pretty good chance it will make it (for a while at least) and you can catch up with the story pretty quickly.
It’s kind of like Darwinism for TV. It seems to work.
October 1st, 2008 at 12:02 am
Freeloader. We need to force you to watch some crappy television to make up for all the stuff you missed.
October 1st, 2008 at 1:02 am
Hmm…. I haven’t watched before.
YOU KNOW PUSHING DAISIES COMES ON TOMORROW!!!
I’m hoping that will never reach the disappointment stage. I can see HOW they would, but I have strong hope the show can stay fresh.
And I saw Eagle Eye just now (in imax) and was not disappointed. He looked AMAZING in just about every single scene…
October 1st, 2008 at 2:01 am
I haven’t seen Fringe and kinda glad I didn’t now. However, how you are feeling about this show is how I’m feeling about Heroes and that’s why I took it off my DVR.
October 1st, 2008 at 2:50 am
Nicky: I have a list on my Google homepage that tells me that both Pushing Daisies and South Park start tomorrow. I think it might be a sign that I watch too much TV.
October 1st, 2008 at 2:59 am
I love Rootbeer Floats, someone lock me up for 20 years!
I also love Pushing Daisies, remides me of the Roald Dahl books I loved so much as a kid.
October 1st, 2008 at 7:18 am
I’m so excited for Pushing Daisies tonight!
October 1st, 2008 at 7:22 am
Last night might have been my last night. I just didn’t care. Okay, I like Peter and I think his name is Charlie, but can they get rid of Olivia and the wacky Dr. and just make it about the guys? Oh and improve the stories? That would work for me. If next week isn’t a big improvement I think I’ll be moving on.
I agree with Ryan, Torchwood is more fun, I’ve almost seen all of season 1. (I seem seem to be following Mat’s rule of waiting to see if its good, then catching up while watching season 2 on TV.)
October 1st, 2008 at 7:56 am
I’ve never seen Fringe, Pushing Daisies, or Torchwood.
…sorry — don’t have anything…just wanted to make a cameo.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:34 am
I’ll watch last night’s episode when I get home from school. But I’m also close to giving up on it and completely agree with your points. If you’re solving supernatural events with supernatural technology it takes away from the supernaturalness of the events. You said it better!
How was Michael and his character?
October 1st, 2008 at 8:42 am
Michael was great.Very creepy! It looks to me like he’ll have a pretty important role in the series. I’m sure he’ll be back.
October 1st, 2008 at 8:54 am
Torchwood is AWESOME!!! I didn’t start watching it until the very very end of Season 1. I made sure I caught ALL of Season 2, and bought Season 1 on DVD and watched it druing the week to catch up, and then watched Season 2 on the weekends. Just got Season 2 on DVD this past week.
Yeah…I AM a Torchwood junkie.
Ryan…cute guys kiss, inDEED! Ianto just makes my knees quiver.
HUGS…
October 1st, 2008 at 9:50 am
Polt: Its Ianto’s accent I think. Its just so damn cute.
I still have 3 episodes of season 1 to watch. I’m watching it on-line and I started one last night and tried to finish it this morning (yeah, I’m watching Torchwood on-line at 7:00 in the morning) but the damn thing wouldn’t finish loading so I’ve laid claim to the computer for an hour tonight so I can finish it and maybe get another one finished. Friday nights season 2 is on which I’m watching.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:00 am
Hooray! I get to be in the cultish minority. I am LOVING the show. I’m finally warming up to Olivia and can’t get enough of Walter. He cracks me up. Oh, well. It doesn’t matter anyway. Anything live action I start to enjoy gets canceled anyway so you haters probably won’t have anything to bitch about soon.
…and I mean that with love, of course.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:05 am
Howard: Can’t get enough of Walter? Really? I agree that Olivia is getting better, but Walter continues to annoy.
Also, I have serious doubts that J.J. Abrams cowrote the teleplay last night. My conspiracy theory is that he has little to do with the show, but they put his name on it so people will watch it. I would follow J.J. Abams to the ends of the Earth.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:23 am
Craig: Me too! Well, I’d at least follow him as far as Cleveland. Because, y’know, that’s pretty close…
October 1st, 2008 at 10:25 am
My Puntabulous dedication goes so far that I’m actually following the comments about a show that I neither watch nor plan to.
Of course, admitting you have a problem is the first step…
October 1st, 2008 at 10:33 am
Craig & Howard: I have to disagree with Olivia. She’s got that one damn expression, she needs botox or something. (her expression is terminally serious crossed with confuzzled) And I’m not being bitchy, there are lots of women detectives on TV I love. Olivia Benson, I want to be her. But Olivia Dunham? Blah. And Walter’s kind of ehhh. I know they are trying to inject humor but it seems out of place sometimes and doesn’t really flow for me.
October 1st, 2008 at 10:42 am
I’m quite enjoying Fringe so far, and will as long as they continue to show Joshua Jackson waking up every episode.
I believe part of the issue is that Fringe is coming after Alias and Lost, two shows with very dense mythology, especially Lost. I think Fringe is trying to avoid some of the issues that Lost experinced, namely, if you miss an episode or two, you’ll be totally confused forever. So they’re trying to go a route where the episodes lightly tie in to a larger puzzle, but could also stand on their own. That leads to the problem that the show is moving too slowly.
I’m hoping they do move away from the skepticism of some of the characters as the show is making it quite obvious to them that they’re wrong. At least the showrunners have said that they know where the show will end up.
October 1st, 2008 at 11:23 am
Craig: Thanks. I’m really glad that he & his character were good. But Damn! That means I’ll have to keep watching! :O
October 1st, 2008 at 11:51 am
Yes, Tam, I think Ianto’s accent MAY have something to do with it. Course, his being cuter than the bee’s knees has something to do with it too.
FDot: they show Joshua Jackson waking up??? Now show him waking up with LiL Josh making a tent, and suddenly, Fringe is my new FAVORITE TV show!!!
HUGS…
October 1st, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Polt: There was no tent but I did check to see if he was nekkid. Undies. Dang.
October 1st, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Polt: The closest he’s ever come to that is in the movie Americano.
October 1st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Oh well…*SIGH*….all I’m sayin is if they want to increase the viewership of Fringe, so Joshie with morning wood.
Course, that pretty goes for ANY TV show, in my opinion: sexy guy in tented undies = my brand new favorite TV show of all time.
Just sayin….
HUGS…
October 1st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Ooo. Americano. Best coffee drink ever.
Though it tastes much better without the naked Joshua Jackson…
October 1st, 2008 at 3:08 pm
And if you find me commenting on strings that I have no real stake in annoying, just let me know.
October 1st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
I’ll, y’know, likely ignore said knowledge, but, hey, can’t say I didn’t offer.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
BTW, who says it’s ‘fake’ science? Hmm? No, no need to answer. I can hear the answer in your mind and I am going to wash your brain out with soap.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Seeing a dead person’s last sight through their eyeball = fake science.
Everything having to do with Rambaldi = fake science.
But for some reason it worked so much better on Alias. Just my own humble opinion though.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:22 pm
But what about putting mini-marshmallows up your nose connected to a wire? Could that work Craig?
Not that I’m volunteering or anything.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Oh totally. I enjoy sticking mini marshmallows up my nose anyway regardless of their interrogation abilities.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
I almost forgot!
Little girl flying to the Sun and talking to it = fake science.
October 3rd, 2008 at 3:15 am
so today on the puntabulous you have raved about 2 shows i’ve not taken on and dissed the one i have allowed to slip into my ‘limited’ viewing schedule. the funny part is i think you are right. i need to rethink my dvr’ing…
October 7th, 2008 at 5:47 am
Hopefully they kill off Josh jacksons charater. Otherwise a decent show. He must have a hell of an agent because he’s one of the worst actors out there. What a pain in the ass always acting like he dosen’t want to be involed. Here I thought he just did bad movies and shows but this one could be watchable if it weren’t for his mug and his shotty delivery of his lines.