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Hey, so did you guys know that NASA is working on installing equipment on the International Space Station that would be able to convert urine into drinkable water? The space shuttle Endeavor delivered the $154 million dollar (Do I still have to write “dollar” even though I put the dollar sign? It seems redundant, but it makes more sense while writing it out.) piece of equipment to the station last week. Essentially its just a large centrifuge that spins at incredible speeds to separate the urine from the water. Yum! I don’t know about you guys, but I’m not crazy about the idea of drinking water made from urine. But being able to do so increases your chances of having longer manned shuttle missions or even being able set up self-sustaining Lunar or even Martian stations. So I guess the benefits outweigh the grossness factor, but only slightly. Anyway, NASA is very excited about this and while the Astronauts aren’t hesitant about drinking the water, they find the dispensing system, which I’ve posted a picture of after the jump, questionable:
Thanks John!
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:11 am
Ah, the Mannekin Pis. When I saw him he was dressed up in a little raincoat, pants (with the fly open, of course), and rain hat. And I’m not sure why you’re so squeamish. A lot of the water you drink is filtered even less thoroughly, and from worse sources, than urine. I guess ignorance is bliss!
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:16 am
No, you don’t need to write “dollar.” According to the Chicago Manual of Style (my general proofreading bible), if you’re using numerals, you use the symbols, and if you’re spelling out the numbers (completely), you spell out “dollars” or “cents”
Although there is some debate about whether you need to write “$154-million dollar piece of equipment” or “$154 million dollar piece of equipment.” The British prefer the former, while Americans tend toward the latter.
As for those astronauts - kinky diapers and now water sports… it must be strange to be an astronaut.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:18 am
Shoot. Make that “$154-million piece of equipment†or “$154 million piece of equipment.â€
Also, ignore the lack of punctuation at the end of the first paragraph. I really do know what I’m talking about, despite evidence to the contrary.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:22 am
Ummm, eww. I’m going to go with Ignorance is Bliss.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:53 am
Well, as long as I didn’t think about it I guess. As Joel said, I know the water in my tap comes from our river which is probably full of urine before processing (raw sewage is regularly dumped) and I just try not to think about it. And in space you can’t be too fussy. Its not like you can go and dig a well somewhere. Drink urine water or die. I’d drink it, with some Crystal Light in it to distract me though.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:55 am
For some odd reason, this reminds me of Madge and the old tv adverts for Palmolive Dishwashing Liquid. “You know… you’re soaking in it.”
Tom Lehrer’s “Pollution” also seems apropros: “The breakfast garbage that they throw out in Troy… they drink at lunch in Perth Amboy”
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:56 am
“No no, Major Tom… we’re pretty sure that’s just motion sickness you’re experiencing…”
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:08 am
Yeah, considering that the role of sewage treatment plants is to clean the crap (literally) out of waste and then release it back into our water supply, I’m not sure why you’re grossed out. The water produced in the space station is probably purer than what you’re drinking out of your tap.
Bleh…
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:53 am
Ummmm, I am not sure this is the way I planned to start my day today….
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:26 am
How much do you want to bet that some NASA scientist read the Dune books? Sounds very similar to the stillsuits that the Fremen wore. Since most astronauts come through the military, I bet they are fine with this. It’s all basic survival training stuff, with some science thrown in.
The Mannekin Pis had a santa hat on when I was visiting Brussels, many moons ago.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:36 am
So I suppose a question on future astronauts’ applications will be “Do you have a watersports fetish?”
Jeez, Craiggers, the topics you find to post about.
HUGS…
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:37 am
“Watersports In Space”…sounds like a band name or a new musical.
HUGS…
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:44 am
When you think about it, isn’t what we drink today just recycled Dinosaur pee.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:51 am
Why don’t they just give them stillsuits?
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:56 am
This is amazing! It reminds me of that episode of Dr. Who where there are stuck on the neverending highway and the people in a car explain that all of their food and water is from recycled human waste. Maybe someday we can enjoy such wonders and poop food!
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:28 am
I refuse to believe that the water I drink is made from recycled sewage water. Bleck. Ignorance is indeed bliss.
David/Howard: I assume they don’t have the astronauts use stillsuits because the first one they make will be really good, and then all the others after that will rapidly decline into ridiculousness.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:14 am
I already thought this was done with Gatorade.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:19 am
Welp, there goes my lifelong dream of being an astronaut.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:28 am
FDot: I don’t think Gatorade has been filtered at all. They just add color. At least that’s what I imagine it would taste like. That stuff is nasty.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:30 am
Leah: In order to go into space I would drink recycled pee without a second thought. For the chance I’d likely drink pee straight up if they asked. Unfortunately the kind of dedication needed to be an astronaut is sooooo not up my alley. I’ve been to the Canadian Space Agency and seen the training facilities here. Its pretty cool.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 am
If Lance Bass can’t do it, then it MUST be tough.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:35 am
Tam I in no way mean to sound like a smart ass here, honestly, but I really didn’t know there WAS such a thing as a Canadian Space Agency. Have you guys put anything into orbit?
And I think Lance decided not to go cause he found out you can’t really dance in a no gravity situation.
HUGS…
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:37 am
Yay Howard for the Dune reference!
I actually knew they were working on this, but didn’t know they installed it.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:48 am
Polt: Of course we have a Space Agency. Sheesh.
We work closely with NASA of course since we don’t have our own but we invented the “CANADARM”. Julie Payette will make her second trip on the shuttle in April as a mission specialist and Bob Thirsk will be heading up on the Soyuz rocket to stay for 6 months on the space station. Marc Garneau, our first astronaut in space was elected to parliament in our last elections. We have quite a few satellites in orbit, Radarsat is one which I believe you guys are trying to get access too and we’re sure you’ll use it for nefarious means. 
Here’s the wikipedia entry, has all our astronauts and the missions they’ve been on and our satellites that are up there spinninga round. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Space_Agency
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:53 am
Craig: I guess there is a difference between being an astronaut and being a space tourist. One, I can’t afford to be a space tourist and two, I’m too lazy and stupid to be an astronaut. I would want to be the real thing, walk in space, fight aliens, you know, the whole nine yards, not just go up and down for a million+ smackers. I can’t imagine Lance kicking any alien ass up there.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:55 am
I’ll never think of a doctors visit the same way:
Take this cup to the bathroom…fill it to the line……
Shudders
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:57 am
Tam, I truly didn’t know you Canadians were such a space-faring people.
Thanks for the info. Might help me if I get on Jeopardy one day. 
And Tam, I’m sure it’s kicking that Lance would be doing to any alien’s ass if he met them.!
*ZING!*
HUGS…
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:57 am
Obviously, I MEANT the line to read “I’m NOT sure it’s kicking that Lance would be doing to any alien’s ass if he met them!”
HUGS…
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:10 am
Perhaps replacing the “k” with an “l” would be Lance’s chosen activity…
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 am
Since most astronauts are practically scientists anyway, I suppose they don’t have much of an issue with drinking recycled urine. I’ve asked myself if I could do it, given the chance…and I probably would, but I’m also a bit of a claustrophobe and being trapped in the confines of a space ship kinda gives me the willies. Unless it’s one of those big ones like on BSG, and they don’t exist yet. I don’t think space travel is in the cards for me in this lifetime, but I still hope it will be.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:26 am
Polt: Anal probes, that’s all I’m saying. I’m surprised Lance didn’t try harder.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:10 pm
John: Good one.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:15 pm
So, is Dave S. off “making porn” again? He’s been conspicuously absent from the posts these last few days….. :/
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:34 pm
I was going to tell you that you don’t need the “dollars” if you put the “$” but Jere beat me to it.
And as for Dave S., he found someone on Craigslist and he’s on his honeymoon now. He’ll be back soon.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:00 pm
*teehee* Tam said ‘harder’*snicker, snicker*
Dave S. has been busy further defining his abs. He wants to make himself SO cut you can slice cheese on his stomach. Either that or he’s just been really extremely busy at work. I forget which he told me.
HUGS…
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:04 pm
This post feels like a “Teach Me Something Tuesday” kind of post. However since today is Wednesday I wonder if this is a new type of feature, perhaps “Water Sports Wednesday”.
I have actually been following the saga of the toilets on the ISS for some time now. A few months ago they had some rather difficult problems just keeping their original toilet working.
I don’t think they will actually be drinking the pee-derived-water for a while longer. They will be regularly sending samples back to earth for analysis before they start consuming the water.
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Chris: I believe its WTF Wednesday.
I’m slightly concerned that you have been following the ISS toilet issues so closely. 
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Tam, what’s WTF Wednesday? What the F*ck Wednesday or Who to F*ck Wednesday?
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Okay, *multiple* people emailed me to tell me about this comment string. I’m like, “how does *my* name get worked into a post about urine?!
But now I understand. Clearly Craig found out about my supersecret movie “Watersports in Canadian Space.” (well, okay, it’s a working title). Girls in really heavy polyethylene-fiber suits in zero-G are hot. Of course, I peed myself several times before we figured out how to logistically work the watersports thing. I’m learning that gravity isn’t something to be taken for granted…
And I think I permanently hurt myself trying to fumble around in those big gloves trying to work the condom…
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Oh, yes, ladies and gentlemen, I’m back.
And I’m sure all ecstatic…
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Finally! I was worried you had an accident on your honeymoon! Kind of like those accidents that often happen on cruise ships… oh no, Pushing Daisies reference. Now I’m sad.
But welcome back!!
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Ah, yes, my whirlwind Craigslist relationship. We met last week, fell madly in love, wedded in Vegas, honeymooned in Aspen, then it was off to the hospital where we had two children, bought a dog in the gift shop, had the house built while we were driving home so it would be ready for the two new young’ns, had a huge fight when we got there about why Fido hadn’t been potty trained yet, made up briefly when it was discovered that our son had a learning disability, but then erupted again when it was clear that she was just never going to change, divorced later that day, lost the house, lost the kids, and the dog died after I “accidentally” hit him with my new car that I bought with the alimony settlement.
::sigh:: So I’m eligible again!
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Bernd: Whatever floats your boat baby.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Dave: Welcome back and now I’m wildly jealous of your life as I’m sure is everyone else.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:23 pm
I don’t mean to make anyone jealous, Tam. Really. I mean, everyone around here knows how adept I am with the ladies…
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Um, yeah — *not*.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Who can say that the hydrogen and oxygen molecules that we drink and breath today didn’t at some point pass through a triceratops willy? (or Wilma)
As long as the dirty stuff like amonia are filtered out, drink up.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Personally, I’ve always found triceratops urine a bit on the dry side with a bit of a daunting aftertaste — fine if you’re having a nice Cesar salad with a side of flatbread and hummus — but I’ve always preferred the heftier flavor of nicely aged Diplodocus piddle. Nice bouquet, lovely color, and goes great with seared yellowfin with sesame-ginger glaze.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Dave S: Once again, you leave me speechless!
Which is a good thing, I’ve been told.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Damn! *That’s* why no one talks around me. All this time I thought it was my lack of personality. Now I realize it’s because of my shining wit!
What a relief…
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Tam, did you know all that Canada space stuff, or did you have to look it up?
Color me impressed if you knew it offhand.
All those millions of dollars would be better spent finding a way to keep me form aging.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Dave S: “shining wit” doesn’t do you justice. I bow down!!
Craig: I’m having a wisdom tooth pulled tomorrow. I will try to stay off the internet, but I want to apologize in advance for any codeine induced comments I might make tomorrow.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Mark: Narcotics and Puntabulous? C’mon — how do they *not* go together!? Now you *must* post tomorrow. Through the cloud of pain and artificially-induced euphoria, you must post.
But in all seriousness, I hope the surgery goes well tomorrow, Mark. That can’t be pleasant.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Thanks Dave, the hardest part is I can’t eat or drink after 10:00 tonight.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Ack! No breakfast!?!
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Michelle: I didn’t realize that Julie Payette was going up on the shuttle in April and I didn’t remember the name of the guy going to ISS but all the rest I knew. One more shining example of the vast store of useless knowledge in my brain.
I dazzled someone just last week with my knowledge of penis enhancement surgery. Who’d have guessed?
Mark: Good luck tomorrow. Can’t wait to see what you are going to post in your drugged haze. Should be amusing.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Dave S. Your wit… I need my sunglasses.
Mark - sorry to hear about your wisdom tooth. I don’t have any. Which means I’m either highly evolved or a mutant.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Michelle: Let’s go with highly evolved, unless you also have a really cool mutant ability…
Mark: Good luck! I had mine out as an adult and it wasn’t too bad. Not fun, mind you, but not horrible.
Dave S.: You were missed, good to have you back.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:29 pm
My Lord, Dave S., when you come back, come back with a bang dontcha?
But I must admit, when I first read “shining wit” somehow I read it as “whining shit”. Wasn’t quite as funny…and then I laughed again, cause it WAS funny….sorta…. geez, and I’m babbling like this and I’ve not even had a tooth pulled and am on narcotics…..
HUGS….
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Tam, what is there to know about Penis-Enhancement-surgery except for DON’T DO IT?
John, Michelle, then I’m 1/4 evolved/mutant. I only have 3 Wisdom-teeth and my ‘cool’ mutant ability is that I can’t smell garlic on somebody else’s breath. Helps a lot in social gatherings and intimate conversations.
Mark, I hope everything go smoothly tomorrow and you enjoy the drugs.
Dave S, welcome back, I missed you and am glad to hear the ad worked finally.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Bernd: The surgery is rather expensive. I believe it was $8500 for the full package, enlarging all dimensions. If I was a guy I’d be scared witless that something would go wrong and it would stop functioning or be mutant or fall off or something.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Tam: tee hee, full package.
Polt: whining shit - that is funny : ).
john: still trying to figure out my ability…
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Welcome back Dave S. (and Craig’s comment count)!
Your shining wit was missed on a number of recent posts.
Mark: Good luck with your surgery and recovery. A dentist once suggested that I might need to have my wisdom teeth removed. That was a few years ago, and he never mentioned it again. I’m not going to remind him.
December 4th, 2008 at 7:54 am
I’m sick, so you’re not getting a new post this morning.
Good luck today, Mark!
December 4th, 2008 at 9:11 am
Sorry to hear you aren’t well, Craig.
Be sure to get plenty of fluids.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Woe and despair! Feel better soon, Craig. Get some rest.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Now we gotta come up with our own topic of discussion…
December 4th, 2008 at 9:44 am
It’s just like the scene in Water World when Kevin Costner is floating on his little raft and pees into that little thing and turns the little crank and then his pee is suddenly water. And he drinks it. Delish. NASA is so Water World.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:07 am
Awwww, hope you are feeling better soon Craig.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Hmm… I come back, Craig gets sick…
I’m thinking Craig’s sick of me.
(because, naturally, it’s all about me)
December 4th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Bridget: That’s pretty damn amazing!
I mean, I didn’t think *anyone* saw Waterworld.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:14 am
Ξ_Heather and I saw it; it was summer, in Wisconsin, and there were a couple weeks of 90-90 weather (90F, 90% humidity). We saw Waterworld, we saw Titanic, and I think we saw Spawn, all chosen by looking for movies with the longest running time.
Waterworld was a fantastic 3 hours in a dark air-conditioned room.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:15 am
We could discuss dental surgery to freak Mark out. Umm, I’ve never had any though so I’m useless. I do have all 4 wisdom teeth in their proper place and am therefore wise beyond all reason unlike mutants Michelle M and Bernd.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Dave: I saw Waterworld, but I don’t remember the pee scene. Must have blocked it out. I think I blocked out the whole movie truth be told.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Wow, Dave S. reappears and Craiggers goes absent. Hey, waitaminute….has anyone ver seen Dave S. and Craiggers at the same time together???? Maybe they’re the SAME PERSON! Like Clark Kent and Superman….although since neither of them wears glasses, I’m not sure who would be Clark Kent? I mean, Dave S. has the abs of steel, but Craiggers is pretty super himself, so now I’m all confused……
HUGS….
December 4th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Speaking of dentistry, I’m getting an implant.
Basically a permanent artificial tooth. The root of one of my molars got an infection and the tooth had to be removed. 
I’m supposed to go in later this month. It won’t be enjoyable. :-/
But it *is* enjoyable. To type. Very short sentences.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:41 am
Polt: Hey, let’s not start rumors. I mean, really. Me and Craig the same person? Please. Like *that* could even *possibly* be true. Ridiculous. Silly.
Hey, look over there! Is that a Triceratops peeing?
December 4th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
heheheh, reminds me of a plaque I saw over the weekend: “Some people say I have a short attention s - Oh, is that a squirrel?” Found it in a pet store. My friends say that about me, that I’m easily distracted. Not that I believe them for - a TRICERATOPS peeing!!! Really??????
HUGS…
December 4th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
What’s going on here? I’m in meetings all day and look forward to reading all the scintillating conversation on here when I come home. And were are still on urine? WTF Thursday.
Oh, well, yes, get better, Craig.
Waterworld sucked and I can still remember the urine-scene.
December 4th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
I made it out alive. I chickened out and went for full anesthesia. good thing they decided to go ahead and cut out another molar. I get stitches out in two weeks.
But I would almost swear, as I was coming out of the anesthesia, that someone was zipping up my pants. I know it must have been the effects of the drugs, but it seemed so real. Maybe it was wishful thinking, the Oral Surgeon was pretty Hot. I’m Loving the Hydrocodone, never been soooo mellow. Thanks for all the good wishes!!!!
Sorry you’re sick Craigy Baby
Hope you feel better soon. If you need some good drugs I’m only 400 miles away.
December 4th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Mark: Glad you made it through okay. “Oral” surgeon huh? Maybe it wasn’t your imagination. Enjoy your drugs while they last.
December 4th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Mark: Glad you made it out OK. If you were completely unconscious for your surgery then they may have had to catheterize you. That could explain your foggy fly sensation. However that seems like an important enough detail that the doctor would mention it.
December 4th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Polt: Craig does wear glasses, sometimes. However they are both pretty super. Actually, I think Craig might be more of a replicant. That would explain why he is always bashing Blade Runner, to avoid drawing too much attention to himself. Let me know if anyone sees him shirtless on a rooftop crying in the rain while holding a dove and reciting a poignant soliloquy. I will have to run a Void Comp Test on him one day.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Mark! Glad you made it out alive!
Enjoy the legal drugs!
December 4th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Mark - I hope the tooth fairy is good to you.
Craig - When you feel crappy, I can’t be happy.
December 4th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Craig: Sorry you’re feeling bad. Hope you are better tomorrow (or milk it for a 4 day weekend).
Mark: Excellent news about your surgery. Hope you aren’t in too much pain. As for the zipper, it would be nice to get some satisfaction with an extraction, but I’m not sure that is the case.
December 19th, 2008 at 7:32 am
Late to the party but I’ve got 24 more Puntabulous posts to get through thanks to having no internet for nigh-on a month. Anyway, some geek somewhen did some math somewhere which says that all the water on the earth has been through seven living beings already, so really the whole world is just one big pee-recycling machine. Makes the whole argument as redundant as the word ‘dollar’ after you’ve already included the sign ‘$’, no?
PS: Sven is angry with his drunk boyfriend and has not time to edit for passive aggression.