Girl Power! Um, not so much.

Okay, so I saw this post over at Jezebel that will surely make some people around here’s heads spin, and I’ll just leave it at that because I don’t want to incur the wrath of certain somebodies. But I’d like to discuss a different song. Does the song According to You by Orianthi bother anyone else as much as it bothers me? The lyrics go:
According to you I’m stupid, I’m useless,
I can’t do anything right.
According to you I’m difficult, hard to please,
Forever changing my mind.
And then:
But according to him I’m beautiful, incredible,
He can’t get me out of his head.
According to him I’m funny, irresistible,
Everything he ever wanted.
Um, how about according to you? What do you think of yourself? Why is this whole song based on what other people think of her? Don’t get me wrong, the song is totally catchy, and I generally leave it on if it comes on the radio, but I think it wrongly gives the impression that it’s a strong girl power song (given the tough rocker chick way it’s sung) when it’s pretty much exactly the opposite. Okay fine, later on she does sing:
According to me you’re stupid, you’re useless,
You can’t do anything right.
Um, okay, but you’re still not letting us know that you think you’re awesome too. And if she thinks this person is so stupid and useless, why was she dating him in the first place? That just doesn’t make sense! And frankly, pop songs need to make perfect sense like they did in the good old days of Slave 4 U. Now I know not every song has to be super girl power to the extreme (given my adoration of Slave 4 U, you should already know that) and this is the only song I know from Orianthi, so I’m not placing judgment on her, just the song. I think it just bothers me that the song is trying to come across as one thing, but the lyrics are saying another. ZOMG did I just write a music post?
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By Nicole, February 18, 2010 @ 8:42 am
I seriously can’t stand this song!!!!! I turn the station every time I hear it come on. I think she sucks just like Avril Lavigne, eeeewww yucky!
By Tam, February 18, 2010 @ 9:01 am
I had a discussion about this song with my daughter in the car just last week. I got on my rant about if the guy treats you like that kick his ass to the curb so fast his head spins. Then I said “And she’s cheating anyway.” The kidlet says no she’s not, she found a new guy. Ummm, no, this line is:
Why can’t you see me through his eyes?
It’s too bad you’re making me decide.
Ummm. She’s basically saying to the current boyfriend, I haven’t decided to leave you yet, but new guy knows me well enough to think I’m amazing, but if you shape up I might stay.
When I pointed out that she HADN’T left the asshole yet, the kid got the puzzled “hmmm” look. Yeah, pay attention to the words hon. LOL I’ll admit it’s a bloody catchy song, but the message, not so much.
By Mel, February 18, 2010 @ 9:05 am
Another reason not to listen to pop music, apparently. I could also go off on a rant about NBC’s coverage of the women’s downhill last night and how not a single fucking one of the commentators referred to the competitors as “women”. They were all “girls”, despite being all adults. Bah. We need a new Riot Grrl movement.
By Craig, February 18, 2010 @ 9:10 am
Tam: I completely forgot about the “It’s too bad you’re making me decide.” line. Cause really? Decide? I didn’t realize there was much of a decision to be made there.
By Craig, February 18, 2010 @ 9:13 am
In defense of Taylor Swift though, I see the point of the Jezebel article, but Taylor doesn’t try to be something she’s not. Her songs may seem sad, and make you think that boys are the only things that matter, but at least it seems genuine.
Patsy Cline’s songs are all sad and woe is me, I lost my man, but would anyone say anything bad about her? Nope. Or at least they better not or I’ll kick their ass.
By Tam, February 18, 2010 @ 9:21 am
When you’re 15 and a straight girl (or gay boy) boys ARE the only thing that matter.
By Polt, February 18, 2010 @ 9:33 am
tam: your last comment: Amen, sista!
Surprisngly, this is a post I CAN comment on! I’ve heard this song several times without knowing who it was. And it is a catchy little ditty. I’m amazed, but I like it.
I don’t usually listen to the words of songs terribly closely. From this song, I was getting the idea that the chick has a crappy boyfriend, had met a new guy, wasn’t dating him yet, but he treats her much better than the current guy, and so, she’s telling current boyfriend that she’s leaving him, dumping him like the loser he so obviously is, and is gonna be with someone who appreciates her. Grrl Power.
even with the line Tam posted, I still don’t get the impression she’s cheating on the old boyfriend. I took it that her and the new beau were just chatting each other up, and he was flattering her cause he maybe didn;’t know she was dating anyone else. And now, after being treated the way a girl should be treated, she’s kicking the old loser to the curb.
But then, why am I putting so much thought into a pop song no one will remember in five years anyway by someone I’ve never heard of before and wouldn’t know if I tripped over them that ????? Arrrgh, i hate pop music!
HUGS…
By john, February 18, 2010 @ 9:54 am
I haven’t heard the song, so I can’t comment, but I can say: it’s a song! Music didn’t shape my decisions, but it did and still does, help provide distraction from issues at hand so I can process thoughts more rationally.
I see what Jezebel is saying, she is saying she is commenting on the brand, not the person. That is an important distinction.
Oh, and Craig, the reason no one messes with Patsy is because she herself described herself as “putting the cunt in country”. That’s not a woman you want to mess with.
By Polt, February 18, 2010 @ 10:21 am
Patsy Cline sings circles around ANYone singing now. And she could kick the ass of anyone she needed to and do a damn thorough job of it. And she’s been dead nearly 50 years already!
I love her songs. They’re just…well beautiful.
HUGS…
By GoKitty, February 18, 2010 @ 10:44 am
Look at you, Ms Gloria Steinem. Let’s debate Camille Paglia vs Naomi Wolff next!
I refuse to listen to the radio so I’ve never heard this but I agree with Mel, we need a new Grrrl movement. None of this water downed Alanis Morrissette crap, I want a new Bikini Kill for a new generation (and not Le Tigre although I adore them).
By john, February 18, 2010 @ 10:52 am
GoKitty: Have you listened to Jack Off Jill?
By The Ryan with the Cupcake, February 18, 2010 @ 11:23 am
Just as I got to the comment box, Taylor Swift came on my playlist. Spooky.
Tam: I think you have a point. She sounds like one of those girls who can’t stand being single so they don’t leave one relationship until they have another one lined up.
By josh, February 18, 2010 @ 12:27 pm
OMG THANK YOU! This is an underdog song that is climbing the charts that no one ever seems to talk about! I HATE IT! It sounds like C-rate Kelly Clarkson reject tracks from her “Since U Been Gone” phase.
The lyrix are artarded and I just read an article wiff her where she tried to be all lyke “GeeTaR AlwAyZ CuMz fiRsT!” and I’m lyke “Chut uh…your skills are decent but not that impressive and your name is completely obnoxious and difficult to pronounce. FAIL!
By josh, February 18, 2010 @ 12:30 pm
Polt: “Patsy Cline sings circles around ANYone singing now.” Yeah, she’s real good. But why do you constantly have to bring down current music?!?!
By The Ryan with the Cupcake, February 18, 2010 @ 12:35 pm
josh: Would you prefer that she selfishly ignores the sexual satisfaction of the guitar?
By josh, February 18, 2010 @ 12:37 pm
Ryan: Only if she wrapz it up befo she smackz it up! If you’re gonna be a disgusting prostitot, at least be safe about it! Who knowz what diseases a 6-string is carrying!
By Craig, February 18, 2010 @ 12:38 pm
LOL @ Ryan
By John, February 18, 2010 @ 12:55 pm
Interesting. I saw a message on a church sign today that said “a good marriage is not about finding the right person, it’s about being the right person.” On the surface it sounds like a very good message, but then how does that jive with “just be yourself”? Should you be yourself, or try to change yourself so you can be the right person? I guess from the church’s perspective they want you to change your sinner ways so it makes sense, but is it really good relationship advice?
By TwoPi, February 18, 2010 @ 12:58 pm
Somehow reading the comments has me thinking of an old Frank Zappa song about a related theme… and a geetar… (“My guitar wants to kill your mama”) Looking for a vid of FZ, I instead stumbled on THIS AMAZING VIDEO of teenaged Dweezil doing his version of his dad’s song.
Warning: contains 80′s hair and teenage sensibilities.
By The Ryan with the Cupcake, February 18, 2010 @ 1:15 pm
josh: Good point. Always practice safe sex, especially if you are hooking up with a new guitar while trying to decide whether to leave an old guitar that makes you feel horrible about yourself.
By Craig, February 18, 2010 @ 1:42 pm
John: Yeah, that sounds like it belongs on a bumper sticker, but if you think about it too long it sounds pretty bad. Be the right person by having dinner waiting at the table on time….or else!
By Tam, February 18, 2010 @ 1:57 pm
John: It’s a rather simplistic message. Be the right person; someone who doesn’t beat your kids, screw around, gamble away the rent money or murder young gay boys and hide them in your basement. I can get behind that sentiment. But it just depends on WHO is making up that definition of being “right”. That can be just as twisted.
You can’t explain life on a church billboard or bumper sticker, but god knows plenty keep trying.
By The Ryan with the Cupcake, February 18, 2010 @ 2:04 pm
John: I think that to a large extent, being ourselves and being the right person are the same. When we live our lives in ways that make use happy and allow us to interact harmoniously with others, we are being the right person and being ourselves.
By GoKitty, February 18, 2010 @ 2:33 pm
john: No, I haven’t. What do they sound like? I read a quick bio and it said they were from Ft Lauderdale. I have a hard time giving street cred to a grrrl band outside the northwest (Olympia, anyone?).
By Polt, February 18, 2010 @ 3:08 pm
john: I’m not sure that getting relationship advice from a church billboard is really the best way to go.
josh: Current music includes Muse, Madonna, R.E.M., all of which I enjoy. I didn’t say just “current pop music” or “current teenaged girls singers who screech on and on about nothing and contribute nothing to society” or anythign like that. Why must you view every comment I make on music as a slam against music you like?
Maybe it’s because you know the limitations of the music you like, even if you refuse to consciously admit it.
*ducking and dogding to avoid projectiles hurled my way by both Sassy josh AND Enrickyricardo!*
HUGS…
By josh, February 18, 2010 @ 3:12 pm
Polt: Maybe cuz every time anyone mentions any kind of modern music (not including the few artists you enjoy), you make it a point to highlight how terrible you think it is. And you don’t know 1/200th of the music I listen to. I listen to more than just P!nk, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and the assorted pop stars I chatter about. Rude.
By Craig, February 18, 2010 @ 3:40 pm
::awkward silence after Josh calls someone rude for the 1,000,000th time::
By josh, February 18, 2010 @ 3:46 pm
Craig: RUDE. 1,000,001. >:o
By Craig, February 18, 2010 @ 3:52 pm
May I suggest the following synonyms if you ever get tired of rude:
abrupt, abusive, bad-mannered, barbarian, barbaric, barbarous, blunt, boorish, brusque, brutish, cheeky, churlish, coarse, crabbed, crude, curt, discourteous, graceless, gross, gruff, ignorant, illiterate, impertinent, impolite, impudent, inconsiderate, insolent, insulting, intrusive, loutish, low, obscene, offhand, peremptory, raw, savage, scurrilous, short, surly, uncivil, uncivilized, uncouth, uncultured, uneducated, ungracious, unmannerly, unpolished, unrefined, vulgar, wild
I really like cheeky.
By Michelle, February 18, 2010 @ 3:54 pm
I haven’t heard the Taylor swift song but the best ‘girl power’ song I heard in a while is Carrie Underwood’s “Before He cheats” with the chorus: “I dug my key into the side
Of his pretty little souped-up 4 wheel drive
Carved my name into his leather seat
I took a Louisville slugger to both head lights
Slashed a hole in all 4 tires
And maybe next time he’ll think before he cheats”
I blast that on the radio every time I hear it.
For some reason it reminds me of my favorite :I Will Survive used so beautifully in Pricilla Queen of the Desert
By Polt, February 18, 2010 @ 3:56 pm
josh: light up, snookums, don’t be so defensive. I don’t get upset when you call an artist I like (like say, um oh I don’t know…Madonna!) a washed up funky, tired old diva…or something like that.
Viva la differance, I always say! And viva la picking on ze friends’ as well!
HUGS…
By The Ryan with the Cupcake, February 18, 2010 @ 3:56 pm
Michelle: Have you ever listened to Cake’s cover of I Will Survive?
By josh, February 18, 2010 @ 3:57 pm
Craig: Rude. 1,000,002.
Michelle: I love “Before He Cheats!” White trash version of Shania Karaoke!
By Polt, February 18, 2010 @ 3:57 pm
Craiggers: i like your cheekies as well.
HUGS….
By Polt, February 18, 2010 @ 3:58 pm
Ryan: Cake’s version of that rocks! As does a whole lot of their songs!
HUGS…
By josh, February 18, 2010 @ 3:58 pm
Polt: I will not lighten up. Sorry.
Michelle: Oh and he don’t knoooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOW!…MIGHT HAVE SAVED A LIL’ TROUBLE FOR THE NEXXXT GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
By Craig, February 18, 2010 @ 3:59 pm
Josh: Cheeky! 1
By josh, February 18, 2010 @ 4:00 pm
Cupcake: I LOVE Cake’s “Short Skirt/Long Jacket.” I must make it a point to download it tonight. The music video is one of the best ever!
By Polt, February 18, 2010 @ 4:00 pm
Josh: okay, well don’t then. It’s not my blood pressure and stress level that’s rising. Rude.
josh’s Rude count: 1,000,0002
Polt’s Rude count: 1
What out I’m right on your bumper! (I was gonna say tail, but I feared a reprisal from davidasaurus!)
HUGS…
By Polt, February 18, 2010 @ 4:01 pm
OHMYGOD, josh, “Short Skirt/Long Jacket” is a favortie of mine, both the song AND video!!! We agree!!!!
See, I guess sometimes oil and water CAN mix!
Time for me to head home now…yay!
HUGS…
By Craig, February 18, 2010 @ 4:07 pm
Before He Cheats is awesome!
Have you guys seen the video where Faith Hill thinks she’s gonna win a Grammy (I think it’s a Grammy) and freaks out when Carrie wins? Can someone link to it? Youtube is blocked here.
By josh, February 18, 2010 @ 4:08 pm
I LOVe this clip. Faith Hill is such a bitch
By The Ryan with the Cupcake, February 18, 2010 @ 4:11 pm
Apparently I need to watch Cake’s video for Short Skirt/Long Jacket
By Craig, February 18, 2010 @ 4:21 pm
Thanks Josh! I remember when she (read: her people) tried to pass it off as a joke. Yeah right.
By josh, February 18, 2010 @ 4:27 pm
Craig: I don’t even know why she was THAT surprised that she didn’t win. She had a few country hits that year, but she didn’t come close to achieving the crossover success she had like 4 years earlier wiff that “Breathe” song. Plus, it was the year Carrie Underwood released her album and had all those hits. Faith Hill for def def defferz gets labeled with a big, fat, red RUDE.
By Tam, February 18, 2010 @ 5:30 pm
Carry Underwood is practically a local now, thanks to marrying the hotness that is Mike Fisher. She’s okay I guess, I have no strong feelings about her one way or the other. Cake – never heard of them.
Canadians are never rude, but we can be cheeky, snarky and sarcastic. That’s an artform.
By Polt, February 18, 2010 @ 7:23 pm
Tam: I first saw the video to “Short Skirt/Long Jacket” in Toronto on MuchMusic! You should watch it on YouTube. There’s a NY and an LA version (I think that’s what they’re called) but they both are great.
Ah, MuchMusic….memories….like actually seeing for real videos and, of course, Ed The Sock!
HUGS…
By Polt, February 18, 2010 @ 7:24 pm
Tam: “Canadians are never rude, but we can be cheeky, snarky and sarcastic. That’s an artform. ” And don’t forget almost universally damn sexy! Or maybe that’s just the Torontoans…
HUGS…
By Justin, February 18, 2010 @ 7:31 pm
Man, nothing gets the blood pumping around here like a MUSIC post.
First off, let me just say: Craig: you’re a Patsy Cline fan? I love you even more!!!!! Gays for Patsy was always my favourite float in the Boston Gay Pride Parade. So much pink. So many frills and tassles. *sigh*
Secondly: I like “cheeky” the best, too. Though Polt beat me to the obvious innuendo.
Thirdly: TwoPi: are you *sure* Dweezil was a teenager in that video? I’m not convinced. Lots of 80s hair and sensibilities though.
Ryan: please have some bumper stickers made up with the tag line “Always practice safe sex, especially if you are hooking up with a new guitar while trying to decide whether to leave an old guitar that makes you feel horrible about yourself.” kthx
As for the original topic, I’ve never heard the song myself, but my initial inclination was to agree with Craiggerz and Tam et al. about it. Polt’s dissenting position may have some merit, but I’m inclined to go with the majority position on this one.
(Oh, and Ryan, although in British English your sentence would be correct, since — ironically enough — they abolished the subjunctive over there ages ago, I think your sentence would sound better as “Would you prefer that she selfishly IGNORE the sexual satisfaction of the guitar?” without the “s”. I’m all about the subjunctive.)
Now I’m off to check out all these songs and videos and lower my terminal uncoolness levels by a factor of 0.000001.
By The Ryan with the Cupcake, February 18, 2010 @ 8:37 pm
Justin: My knowledge of the subjunctive is 99% from my fourth year of Spanish. I try to do it right when I remember about it.
By Justin S., February 18, 2010 @ 11:03 pm
I think this song does embody the spirit of girl power. Girl power at it’s inception, not it’s maturity. No one begins thier journey being totally strong. It takes awhile to get there.
Perhaps she is just coming to realize that she is powerful. She has a choice and can empower herself to make the move that will result in her being treated the way shre deserves to be treated.
I don’t see her as cheating. SHe has met someone new who has opened her eyes to the mistreatment has has thus far allowed. She loves the current boyfriend, but cannot continue to allow herself to treated badly.
The seed of girl power has germinated and is reaching towards the sun.
Then again, maybe too much is being read into all of this. It could just be a crappy pop song. I love pop songs but many have very little to say. It is incredibly cathy and catchy songs tend have have lyrics that leave something to be desired.
By Chris D., February 19, 2010 @ 3:04 am
I know this song. It is catchy. But I had never heard of Orianthi. For some reason I thought it was a Kelly Clarkson song. I guess I don’t have my finger on the pulse of pop music like some people do.
I never gave the lyrics much thought, as I mostly just heard it as background music while driving.
I think some people are just WAY too desperate to be in a relationship, ANY relationship, so long as they feel connected to someone. I guess I am just not like that.
I would MUCH rather be single than in an unhealthy relationship. I suppose I tend to fall for specific people, rather than situations. However, I can certainly commiserate with falling for the WRONG people. The first guy I fell for was so perfect, BUT…
Our hearts are complicated worlds.
By Justin, February 19, 2010 @ 10:07 am
Ryan, Ryan, Ryan. You only have a 1% knowledge of non-Spanish subjunctives? You’ve been deprived, my boy!
“Other” Justin — you’ve made a very good case for the alternate, shall we say, “Poltian” view. Nice blog, btw
Oh, and Ryan, my request for that bumper sticker still stands. If you’re going to come up with a pithy aphorism you’re on the hook to provide people with bumper sticker versions of it. That’s just the way the world works, baby.
By Enrico, February 19, 2010 @ 10:31 am
This song sucks. The best feminist song I ever heard is called “Beat Me Up” and it’s by Allison Iraheta. It goes:
Baby even though you beat me up, beat me up
I still love you ’cause you heat me up, heat me up
And that’s why every time you hit me up, hit me up
I come running ’cause you fix me up, fix me up
Oh baby! Just beat me up!
And stop fighting about music everyone! Polt can keep listening to Barbra Streisand if he wants and Josh can listen to “Terrified.” And Craig, stop being rude
By josh, February 19, 2010 @ 10:37 am
And I(ee)I(ee)I’m in loooooooove wiff Enr(ee)r(ee)co cuz he looooooooves “Terrifiii(ee)iii(ee)iied!”
By Justin, February 19, 2010 @ 11:06 am
Ahhhh, yes. The young’uns do fancy themselves so very ironic and jaded and worldly wise, don’t they? “Ha ha” on the cynical “best feminist song” joke, Enriquierz
Thanks, though for injecting a much-needed “can’t we all just get along” sentiment. The Polt-and-Josh feud needs to end before we all start crying!!!
And I don’t think Craig is EVER rude. Though he is sometimes Cheeky
By The Ryan with the Cupcake, February 19, 2010 @ 11:44 am
Justin: The other 1% comes from an item in Reader’s Digest explaining why “If I were a rich man” is correct.
Coincidently, the strongest part of what remains of my Spanish is saying what I would do if I were rich: si tuviera un millon dolares, compraria pasteles para todas de las personas Puntabulous.
By Justin, February 19, 2010 @ 12:19 pm
Aww. That’s so sweet of you! Do we get to pick our preferred flavour?
In any event, oddly enough, I don’t think I ever learned the rules of the English subjunctive in school. It — weirdly enough — seems to come naturally to me. And I’m talking about the form where you drop the “s” in the 3rd person singular. To me, it just sounds weird to say “Would you prefer that she selfishly ignores the sexual satisfaction of the guitar?” because by putting an “s” at the end of that verb, it sounds like you are ASSERTING that she IS selfishly ignoring. By leaving the “s” off (which is a subjunctive form), it makes the verb no longer an assertion of fact, but a conjecture, with a meaning more like “If she WERE to selfishly ignore” and less like “since she is selfishly ignoring”.
I don’t know why that kind of usage (the subjunctive one) seems SO natural to me and when people use the non-subjunctive one, it sounds very odd to me, like they are asserting as fact something which they really only meant to say as something hypothetical.
This kind of usage (dropping the “s” in third-person singular verbs) is JUST an American thing, though (at least amongst affected and pretentious Americans). Which seems VERY counter-intuitive, since we tend to think of the British as more “proper”. This subjunctive form USED to be used in England, but it died out a long time ago (maybe even more than a century ago over there).
To the contrary of popular opinion, in fact, the American dialect actually preserves quite a lot of archaic usages from 200+ years ago which died out in the UK. The word “gotten” in Britain may sound to some people as archaic and weird as “prithee” or “zounds” — it doesn’t exist there anymore (they just use “got”). The word “fall” instead of “autumn” is also an archaism over there. The American dialect has many holdovers from Elizabethan English — it is British English in fact that has changed more over the past 200 years.
Man I’m rude.
By Justin, February 19, 2010 @ 12:20 pm
I meant to say.
Man I’m a NERD.
Maybe that makes me rude, too. Boring everybody with my nerdiness.
By The Ryan with the Cupcake, February 19, 2010 @ 12:32 pm
Traditionally, nerdiness is reserved for Tuesdays, but I’m not sure the particulars of the subjunctive is appropriate for a guest Teach Me Something Tuesday guest post.
By TwoPi, February 19, 2010 @ 12:37 pm
Is there a Schoolhouse Rock vignette on the subjunctive?
By Justin, February 19, 2010 @ 12:58 pm
TwoPi — there SHOULD be. I think though that it would end in violence. With the cartoon character trying to teach the subjunctive beng stuffed upside-down into a trash-can as the cooler cartoon characters go their merry ways.
Ryan — if there’s a Teach me Something Tuesday guest-post spot open, I’m full of boring things to teach
By Craig, February 19, 2010 @ 1:17 pm
What’s Teach Me Something Tuesday?
Oh right…
By josh, February 19, 2010 @ 2:43 pm
Justerz: Don’t worry…we all lurrrve each other. Fights come and go wiffout much remembrance around here. Very much like Shakira’s latest album did (sadly!).
By Polt, February 19, 2010 @ 3:29 pm
Josherz and I are feuding? really? Oh well then we’ll just have to kiss and make-up…as long as I can avoid the retaliation from the dreaded davidasaurus.
And Craiggers is sometimes cheeky, sometimes cranky, never rude, but ALWAYS cute.
HUGS…
By Justin, February 19, 2010 @ 3:38 pm
Yes he is. And in fact a friend of mine seems to be developing a little bit of an online crush on Craig. Not a day goes by that he doesn’t mention to me how adorable he is.
Or should I say aDORKable?
By TwoPi, February 19, 2010 @ 6:47 pm
Just watched the video in the post. The Steve Vai poster [0:17] caught my eye, and after a bit of surfing it turns out she’s sort-of a protege of Vai.
Her playing is certainly credible. Fans of the genre will appreciate it. But yeah, the lyrics are horrid. She should follow Zappa’s advice to “shut up and play yer guitar.”
She was slated to be the lead guitarist in Michael Jackson’s “This Is It” tour. Not an easy gig to land.
[Conceptual continuity: Vai got his break working as Frank Zappa's stunt guitarist. And he apparently appears on Orianthi's album.]
By Polt, February 19, 2010 @ 7:19 pm
Justin: tell your friend, sorry, but the position of Craigger’s stalker is currently filled!
HUGS…
By Justin, February 19, 2010 @ 7:43 pm
I-I-I-I-I dunnoooo, Poltsky-doodles. Maybe we should let Craiggleslerzes pick his own stalker?